@benfire71 @MIGO_Offiziell @Martin__Sauter @pelagicbird @fuulu92 @Jean__Fisch "ME" ist ungleich RKI/STIKO? 1. Wenn es so ist, dann kann man es ja auch so sagen. 2. Hmm, Cochrane äußert sich ja auch zur VE bei Influenza: https://t.co/Y6A2ouerdQ Warum dann n
Impfstoffe zur Vorbeugung von Grippe bei älteren Menschen Die Wirkung von Grippeimpfstoffen auf ältere Menschen ist mäßig, unbeachtet von Setting, Endpunkt, Population und Studiendesign. https://t.co/KRrSxUqFIP
@HerbelPhilippe @ARoot21 @mdiplo Et oui, et pourtant, la santé publique conseillait le vaccin à tous, alors qu'on savait que c'était inutile, voire néfaste, pour les personnes de plus de 65 ans, il y a une efficacité, très limitée et encore là, les études
@FranckRamus @So_Roy @AnnePrigent1 Pour les sujets âgés : https://t.co/C1zygZ6Mmy
@DrHOSP1 @DrPuerner Positive Wirkung für Ältere zweifelhaft. Evidenz für Kinder nicht vorhanden. Sie können genauso gut Globuli oder Schlangenöl nehmen. https://t.co/6n7mGr9twn
@thereal_truther @hartster1 @anish_koka @AndrewFoy82 @drjohnm @rfsquared @AngryCardio “The available evidence relating to complications is of poor quality, insufficient, or old and provides no clear guidance for public health regarding the safety, efficacy
@docdu16 Sur la transmission, ces méta-analyses de RCT : - https://t.co/u7LwX3KHuy - https://t.co/ZWFuZaQysF Sur les formes graves, difficile de faire une RCT mais ça : - https://t.co/QygVs3RZE9 Pour soignants/soignés : - https://t.co/Fi5Ar49WO0 - htt
@aur_rousseau @Sarah41659531 "Les preuves en faveur d'un risque plus faible de grippe et de syndrome grippal avec la vaccination sont limitées par les biais dans la conception ou la réalisation des études." https://t.co/wiJMw0EvHl
@MdBreathe @Evelyn31721 Cochrane systematic review “We are uncertain how big a difference these vaccines will make across different seasons. Very few deaths occurred, and no data on hospitalisation were reported.” https://t.co/bgsxxUuwiQ
@rivm Ook bij ouderen werkt het griepvaccin niet of nauwelijks. https://t.co/k1HhlBeDw2. https://t.co/nM3nKes6w4
高齢者インフル予防💉https://t.co/y9qM9fssE8 placeboより、1seasonでインフル罹患6〜2.4%⬇️? RR0.42 確実性低い証拠:診断方が不確実 高齢者は1season中に未💉よりILI(インフル様疾患)発症⬇️3.5%対6%、RR0.59 中程度確実性 インフル1人発症を防止に30人💉が必要 ILI1人発症を防止に42人💉が必要
@lukner Because it’s a money maker. No liability the science doesn’t support the flu vaccine. https://t.co/ZPRYhyr3wq
RT @StephFarrel: @jsm2334 @profnfenton @stkirsch “The evidence for a lower risk of influenza and ILI with vaccination is limited by biases…
@stkirsch Yup i'm "antivaxxer"😂, anti mRNA for sure. If you look at the absolut risk in vaccines RCT there's only 2% of reduction, almost same en Flu infection. It's natural, the anamnesic response it's what protect us from severe desease https://t.co/mG1
@l_ewig @Duracelde @ewyler @dazugeberin @tagesanzeiger Das stimmt nicht. Die Grippeimpfung wurde mit Placebo verglichen. https://t.co/xnj2GhkIRG
@IEHospitalGroup @lukes_ck Influenza vaccines are not particularly effective at preventing illness or death in any cohort of patients. https://t.co/qhI0Kavkt5… https://t.co/8RkN4Mz71t…2216
1. The older you are, the less effective the flu shot becomes. “Older adults receiving the influenza vaccine may have a lower risk of influenza (from 6% to 2.4%), and probably have a lower risk of ILI compared with those who do not receive a...” https://
@Tea_O_CANADA @BogochIsaac “The available evidence( flu vaccines) relating to complications is of poor quality, insufficient, or old and provides no clear guidance for public health regarding the safety, efficacy, or effectiveness of influenza vaccines for
Cochrane for elderly getting Influenza vaccine https://t.co/VJInhIuXZu https://t.co/ZnM2T8ZfNz
@dukla_DE Ja? „The amount of information on pneumonia and mortality was limited. Data were insufficient to be certain about the effect of vaccines on mortality.“ https://t.co/Z3cYuBMQIo
@lorelei3112 @rivm Funfact: Er is geen bewijs dat het griepvaccin ziekenhuisopnamen of sterfte voorkomt. https://t.co/sNWSStZRCg https://t.co/hoOYZkxFGJ
@dan_kwi @john_bumblebee @rubenivangaalen Leest u de 'Authors Conclusion' https://t.co/d8BNOkzbmS
@zeg_eens_aad @DeeDovichPoet U bent geïnteresseerd in werkzaamheid van therapiën. U zou eens een rondje op https://t.co/nkyHDgSgrw kunnen rondstruinen om te kijken hoeveel (gepatenteerde) geneesmiddelen slecht of geen bewijs hebben dat het werkt. Leest u a
RT @SteredL: @EricArchambaul7 Voir études Cochrane également sur 30 ans de données https://t.co/YxThD47rMt
RT @SteredL: @EricArchambaul7 Voir études Cochrane également sur 30 ans de données https://t.co/YxThD47rMt
@EricArchambaul7 Voir études Cochrane également sur 30 ans de données https://t.co/YxThD47rMt
@PamLongCO "There were 3 deaths from 522 participants in the vaccination arm and 1 death from 177 participants in the placebo arm" https://t.co/4bS6cJOqya Or 0.575% vs 0.565%. No statistical difference; slightly higher for vaxxed.
RT @StephFarrel: @BradBanko @kevinnbass @CDCDirector “The evidence for a lower risk of influenza and ILI with vaccination is limited by bia…
@BradBanko @kevinnbass @CDCDirector “The evidence for a lower risk of influenza and ILI with vaccination is limited by biases in the design or conduct of the studies….The available evidence relating to complications is of poor quality, insufficient…” http
@JochemBredewout @Heufstillrocks Geen bewijs dat griepvaccins sterfte of ziekenhuisopnames voorkomt. https://t.co/sNWSStZRCg
Comme c'est vrai, et bien dit ! (hi hi hi) https://t.co/jIOfRawZkU
@salonium “The evidence for a lower risk of influenza and ILI with vaccination is limited by biases in the design or conduct of the studies. Lack of detail regarding the methods used to confirm the diagnosis of influenza limits the applicability of this re
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RT @Covid_Scenarios: Source pour la grippe ? 1-L'essentiel de la baisse a lieu avant les 70s, quand vaccination antigrippe était encore…
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Dans le détail, la revue note bien une diminution du risque absolu de contracter la grippe de l'ordre de ~3%, avec un faible niveau de certitude Les données sur les hospitalisations étaient inexistantes, et celles sur la mortalité quasi inexistantes https
prawdopodobieństwo zakażenia wirusem innym niż grypa ponad 4 razy https://t.co/h9guDWCdD9 przeglądu Cochrane dotyczącego grypy u osób starszych, https://t.co/wJotq2Cdo1
@jsm2334 @profnfenton @stkirsch “The evidence for a lower risk of influenza and ILI with vaccination is limited by biases in the design or conduct of the studies. Lack of detail regarding the methods used to confirm the diagnosis of influenza limits the ap
@a_gossweiler @pash22 @kathleen_neuzil https://t.co/ee05JBm1dr Inconclusive evidence for pneumonia or death
@ArneGbg @MijatovSesse Finns inget att motbevisa. Vaccin är inget annat än hokus pokus. Vi kan börja lite lätt med influensavaccinet för gamla. https://t.co/XpA4epibaW
RT @Ken__kaneki33: Sources : https://t.co/POcJRIgERT
RT @Ken__kaneki33: Sources : https://t.co/POcJRIgERT
RT @Ken__kaneki33: Sources : https://t.co/POcJRIgERT
RT @Ken__kaneki33: Sources : https://t.co/POcJRIgERT
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@jsm2334 @DrSyedHaider “The available evidence relating to complications is of poor quality, insufficient, or old and provides no clear guidance for public health regarding the safety, efficacy, or effectiveness of influenza vaccines” https://t.co/mahVkAW
@bcniilo @AriJaarnio @Jussi7 Jos sinulla olisi älyä ja kykyä selvittää asioita paskanjauhmisen sijaan, olisit kyllä helposti saanut selville että noissa Cochranen katsauksissa on tehty meta-analyysi, eli tilastollinen tulosten analysointi. https://t.co/tm
@EWoodhouse7 @DrJBhattacharya There is a lack of compelling evidence. “The available evidence relating to complications is of poor quality, insufficient, or old and provides no clear guidance for public health regarding the safety, efficacy, or effectiven
@SisterOMalley @dakapayne @DoctorKarl that's a nice fantasy https://t.co/x6D1b9dJRk have your nanna nap
RT @LautesS: Wir wirksam sind die aktuellen Influenza-Impfungen? bei älteren Menschen? 2,4-6% bei Gesunden? 1-2% bei Kindern? 4-18% "sehr…
RT @LautesS: Wir wirksam sind die aktuellen Influenza-Impfungen? bei älteren Menschen? 2,4-6% bei Gesunden? 1-2% bei Kindern? 4-18% "sehr…
Wir wirksam sind die aktuellen Influenza-Impfungen? bei älteren Menschen? 2,4-6% bei Gesunden? 1-2% bei Kindern? 4-18% "sehr moderat" ➡️bereit für die jährlich Influenza-mRNA Impfung😉 1.https://t.co/kiUUAH1wCt 2.https://t.co/Ovy1poQ31s 3.https://t.co/Bi
@Marek39556099 U osób starszych: - zmniejszenie ryzyka zachorowania z 6% do 2,4% - nic nie wiadomo o redukcji ryzyka zgonu (znikoma liczebność, RR~=1,0) - o skutkach ubocznych wiadomo bardzo mało https://t.co/HEm0QcOSOH
Dostępne dowody dotyczące powikłań są słabej jakości, niewystarczające lub stare i nie dostarczają jasnych wskazówek dla zdrowia publicznego dotyczących bezpieczeństwa, skuteczności szczepionek przeciw grypie dla osób w wieku 65 lat lub starszych https://t
@Grzegorz_Red @pawmac24 @AgnieszkaSzust3 Trudno cokolwiek powiedzieć https://t.co/9lHrxP5ukV
@CcoHse Influenza vaccines are not particularly effective in any cohort of patients. https://t.co/W9NVJzqkQH https://t.co/qPKgWPjPnO
RT @generection1: 高齢者でももちろんそう。 どの報告も・どの世代もおおむね発症予防率は5-6割程度。 https://t.co/MeyblLGaHR
RT @generection1: 高齢者でももちろんそう。 どの報告も・どの世代もおおむね発症予防率は5-6割程度。 https://t.co/MeyblLGaHR
@Jenivicario @cher No they do not - my friend took both and got covid with flu - stop pretending https://t.co/Fcp3zw5yDt
@cher You are older than 65 the FLU shot is utter crap ! Go get some ozone and an IV vitamin C drip or have it brought to you . You are a multi millionaire and do not know basic ways to up your immune system ! Smh - https://t.co/Fcp3zw5yDt
@cher Flu vaccine is proven to not even be 1% effective against the FLU! Also cher, maybe you should demand the criminal makers held tort liable for product harm , and stop calling people who demand criminals held accountable “anti vaxx” very rude ! https:
RT @generection1: 高齢者でももちろんそう。 どの報告も・どの世代もおおむね発症予防率は5-6割程度。 https://t.co/MeyblLGaHR
RT @generection1: 高齢者でももちろんそう。 どの報告も・どの世代もおおむね発症予防率は5-6割程度。 https://t.co/MeyblLGaHR
RT @generection1: 高齢者でももちろんそう。 どの報告も・どの世代もおおむね発症予防率は5-6割程度。 https://t.co/MeyblLGaHR
RT @generection1: 高齢者でももちろんそう。 どの報告も・どの世代もおおむね発症予防率は5-6割程度。 https://t.co/MeyblLGaHR
高齢者でももちろんそう。 どの報告も・どの世代もおおむね発症予防率は5-6割程度。 https://t.co/MeyblLGaHR
@CheckNewsfr Hé @CheckNewsfr, quant vous aurez un moment, vous pourrez me vérifier ça, s'il vous plaît? Je sais, c'est pas viral (mon tweet et ce questionnement ) mais c'est important, non? Merci ! 😊 https://t.co/ArmMbnZ3f7
@NIAgeing @DrSamirSinha @checkupcbc @ianhanomansing Can't be bothered to listen to quack experts unless they discussed these: 2018 Cochrane review: "impact of flu vaccines are modest, irrespective of setting, outcome, popn, & study design" https://t.c
@Golden_Pup Here is some data for the 65y+ crowd: Latest Cochrane review showed "impact of influenza vaccines in older people is modest, irrespective of setting, outcome, population, and study design": https://t.co/cYmtJBMKGB
RT @_SUPERCOUILLON_: @MEUNIERPatric11 @BanounHelene Avec des vaccins contre la grippe tout aussi performants que pour le Covid 🙄 Mais on…
@MEUNIERPatric11 @BanounHelene Avec des vaccins contre la grippe tout aussi performants que pour le Covid 🙄 Mais on s'en fout: faites-vous vacciner, faites confiance aux zotorités, ils SAVENT eux, ce qui est bon pour vous ! https://t.co/Sj0amK4B7g htt
@USMortality @jsm2334 “The available evidence relating to complications is of poor quality, insufficient, or old and provides no clear guidance for public health regarding the safety, efficacy, or effectiveness of influenza vaccines for people aged 65 year
@nicolasberrod Où sont les études PROUVANT l'efficacité et donc l'utilité de la vaccination anti-grippe? Selon le groupe Cochrane (ONG de scientifiques, très fiable), elles n'existaient pas en 2016. Les données ont-elles changé depuis? https://t.co/q
@JeromeAdamsMD As the surgeon general, you cannot possibly be ignorant of the fact that seven decades of studies have never shown flu vaccine to be able to reduce hospitalizations. https://t.co/zXRLfJxj1K
@GabinJean3 @RemiSalomon https://t.co/qBmYp6GFrA Comme dhab : on ne sait pas, mais au cas où, faites le quand même 🤦♀️
@FrankyInvalid @rene_chiche ça c'est les plus anciens https://t.co/e7jznkqQ8h
@chetempochefa @RobertoBurioni Questa recente revsiine Cochrane (che voi sicuramente saprete cosa sia) non trova alcuna evidenza che il vaccino anti influenzale ridica la mortalità da influenza. È la scienza, bellezza! https://t.co/YQQZT7tDV8
@letiziamoratti Da anni vacciniamo gli anziani per l'influenza.Eppure questa recente revisione Cochrane non trova nessuna evidenza che il vaccino abbia effettivamente diminuito la mortalità da influenza. La scienza è complessa, più di quanto lei creda. htt
@DeinosPro @EumeswiI Track record in influenza vaccine isn't exactly stellar. https://t.co/0cqSVieeNA
@Hold2LLC @EpiEllie The track record on flu vaccine is not stellar. This review is relatively recent and the results are..well..pretty unexciting. If THIS is what we hang our hats on for keeping people "healthy" nothing will ever change. https://t.co/0cq